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“it's only for a few years”

July 16th 2004 after lunch

After much heartache, I think that Stephanie and I have finally found a place to live in Boston. We may be in for a very rude awakening when we arrive since we had to do much of the shopping from Atlanta, but we have at least avoided sleeping in the snow. Our first introduction to Boston, I have to say, has not really done much to excite us about the upcoming move. In general, people in the rental industry followed very closely the stereotypes that Southerners expect from those who live in the Northeast; rudeness, deceitfulness and general disregard for others. We can only hope the characteristics do not extend outside of the real estate community, but we're already having to reassure ourselves that “it's only for a few years”.

The nightmare of finding a place to live in Boston begins almost immediately when you notice that rent is approximately four times greater than it is in Atlanta. I understand that there are indexes that report the cost of living to be about 30% higher in Boston, but I seriously doubt that quality of life is maintained. And if that isn't bad enough, the housing expenses do not stop there. Since much of the market is made of smaller buildings that include less than five units, finding them is impossible. They are literally scattered all over the city. And so enters the rental agent, a creature you would not allow into your home without first putting down newspaper. We talked to people who reported eventually finding a decent agent, but they may actually be harder to find than a decent apartment. Good or bad, they all live for the agent fee – an additional month's rent passed on to the renter. Nothing offends the agent more than having to show an apartment that rents for less than $2500 a month, and mention the word graduate student and they may stop just short of spitting on you. There is also parking to consider, which can run more than $100 a month.

As far as I can tell there are only two reasons to live in Boston: Harvard and MIT. I may change my mind when I get there and experience the more pleasant aspects of the city, but for now all I can say is: it's only for a few years.

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#1
John
Two reasons is being generous.

Who needs divinities? Lawyers?? Although I did hear there was a decent medical school somewhere around there once&#hellip;
#2
John
Oops. Been typing Unicode lately to get around having to include importing ENTITY definitions into a three-line XML file… Sigh.
#3
kellegous
dammit. i have to stop messing with the entities; i keep breaking … stuff. The most recent breakage was due to my outsmarting myself by trying to determine if the commenter is submitting a simple “pay attention to my spacing” message or an HTML “check me for well-formedness” message. maybe i have it ironed out now.
#4
El Noodle
Wow dude- That place is exactly 1.25 miles from my brother's place (according to MS Streets n' Trips). The only thing I remember about the area is that there's this big nasty rotary on the other side of the pond from you. It's the kind where people get stuck in it for days. If you're trying to save money on a friday night, I'd say go get a six pack and watch people's expressions as they enter the rotary ("I DO NOT SEE YOU. I MUST FOCUS ON WHAT IS IN FRONT OF ME"). I'd walk over there and hold up a sign that says "ACKOWLEDGE ME".

Yeah, moving to a dense place like Boston is going to take a lot of patience. Housing sucks, the roads make no sense, and I think that you may actually be in a dry county. But.. I can confirm that Boston's big enough, that there are in fact a few Southern restaurants in town (you can even get Chitlins).. Ain't nobody in California that knows what sweet tea and pulled pork is.

Personally, I think you should work on perfecting the southern stereotype.. Get a mullet, a pickemup-truck, and a cowboy hat. Then show up on campus for day one shouting out "Country Boy CAN Survive, yeeeehaw! I 0wn j00!".

-El Noodle
#5
Todd
Welcome to Boston. No matter what Craig says, even if you can find BBQ here you can NOT find sweet tea. I, too, am still in shock from how different living conditions are up here. Unfortunately, the rudeness is not limited to real estate...I personally think it's the combination of bad weather, wretched roads, and sub-standard living conditions, but whatever it is, something up here just makes people irritable and mean. Count yourself lucky, because it looks like you found a relatively decent place, at least for around here. I actually go running on the path around Fresh Pond, which passes right in front of your building. I've seen that 30% index number too, what a crock. Maybe on things like food and day-to-day stuff it's only 30%, but on rent/real estate it really is more like a factor of four. I'm the only person I know whose standard of living actually went DOWN upon finishing grad school and starting the first job.

Welcome to the neighborhood. At least for you it's only for a few years.
#6
kellegous
I certainly would have done well to have read Todd's “Screeds & Diatribes” entry on renting before setting out to find a place to live in Boston.
#7
c-diddy
dude...time to get you some backbone! I think you'll find a very high quality of life, presuming you take to big city living, generally. The attitude thing, I think you'll find ways to improve your experience. As far as agents go, they suck everywhere. Here, I've found them to be friendly but virtually useless. Up there, I'm sure they're nearly as useless but just more direct about how useless they'll be for you... As general rudeness goes, I think you'll find it's usually about testing the thickness of your skin. Just try and be direct about whatever it is you're doing/saying along with a smile, and I'm sure you'll find it diminishes. Cluelessness will bring it out of a yankee quick, though.. My theory on it involves being conscious of others. Things common down here, like crossing streets against the light, slowly, crossing 4 lanes of traffic at 30MPH so you don't miss your exit, and other random acts of cluelessness are examples of things that will draw immediate ire. It's just about not intruding on other people's need to get their own thing done. Don't ask the guy power walking down the street for directions, ask the guy waiting for a bus...stuff like that. I know you'll be fine with a little experience up there. I'm rambling some, and you probably know all of this, but it's worth saying.

I'll also bet that this time next summer you'll have a very different view of the place, in a good way.
#8
J Dog
I usually post all my inane commentary on the noodle's site, but apparently I am enough of a pest that he took it down. So pardon my intrusion and xcuse the spelling or lack there of.Having worked with folks in the Northeast for the past few years, I noticed that they have certain, um, expectations of southerners.For instance..- After a few years, they decided to sell our Atlanta facility, and gave some of the engineering group a choice of moving to their Fall River, MA plant or being laid off. The only logic we could figure they used to determine who would be offered a transfer and who would be laid off was if the person in question had "strong roots" in the south. This was determined by if you had a pronouced souther accent. A couple of the folks with "strong roots" spent a significant portion of their lives in Connecticut.- The only people they ever hired for management postions were from Boston. - Some other things that were said to me or friends:"Have you ever travelled outside of Georgia?" - Asked by the HR Person to a guy with something like 6 E+6 frequent flier miles."Don't you guys all carry ropes in your cars?" - This was said by the VP of Technology to a room full of us, and he meant it exactly like it sounds."It's about the size of a small pig" - Talking about a portable electronic device. I think they were kidding me with that one.I would follow el noodle's advice and play upon the stereo type, (particullaly if you got the "twang"). My brother in law lives in Natick and does this. He once managed to scare a guy so bad that he deliberately avoided driving through Georgia on his was to Florida.I remeber our purchasing guy used to take visiting VIP's to the gun range to cook off a few hundred with the assualt weapong du jour. This was always exhibit A as evidence of our backwardness. Of course, that guy was from Connecticut. Maybe it's the water.....

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